Posted by: Paulo Pires | January 16, 2008

Sun + MySQL vs Oracle + BEA

Hi folks,

It’s all over the news, Sun to acquire MySQL and Oracle to acquire BEA. Interesting, hun? Can you see a pattern here? Well, I do..

1) Sun provides a Java EE server implementation, aka Glassfish but none enterprise-scale database engine;

2) Oracle provides an enterprise-scale database engine, but none Java EE server implementation;

3) Things between Oracle and RedHat have been spicin’ up because of Linux distrowars, so Oracle, IMHO wouldn’t even try to acquire JBoss.

So, what happens?! ..oh well, pretty obvious, don’t you think?

Posted in Java, Linux, OSS, OpenSolaris, Tek, Work

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  1. 2) Oracle provides an enterprise-scale database engine, but none Java EE server implementation; Are you sure? So, what´s Oracle Application Server? http://www.oracle.com/appserver/index.html

    By: Mulder3 on January 16, 2008
    at 6:07 pm

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  2. @Mulder3 have you ever used IAS? It’s a huge pile of crap. But I’m guessing the BEA deal isn’t about it’s excellent Weblogic or it’s wonderful JRocket as much as the Aqualogic suite (Oracle’s product utterly sucks… again). So, all in all, Oracle sticks to it’s great DB product and BEA delivers everything else.

    By: cpinto on January 16, 2008
    at 10:22 pm

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  3. I fear what oracle and bea can do together. After all, they are (partially) responsible for the growing complexity of enterprise apps over the last few years. Every new release of their products only adds new layers on top of existing ones, under the “platform” buzzword. And the developers have to delve deeper and deeper through all the SOA junk to solve the most trivial problems.

    By: Alves on January 16, 2008
    at 11:09 pm

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  4. @Mulder3 can you tell me one OAS deployment you know? I can’t recall of any.. and why? Cause it sucks hard!

    @Celso I don’t envy your, ermm experience :-p

    @Alves IMHO they won’t do anything at all. Sun is taking this to higher levels, not only taking in account good products, but mostly products that can fit in any company no matter its size.

    Can you see a startup or a web company buying Oracle + BEA when they can have a Linux/OpenSolaris system running Glassfish + MySQL? Or any other thing.. Sun won’t block you in the way. Openess wins again, that’s my bet ;-)

    By: Paulo Pires on January 17, 2008
    at 10:31 am

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  5. “Sun provides a Java EE server implementation, aka Glassfish but none enterprise-scale database engine;”

    And it still won’t provide an enterprise-scale database engine. Unless you’re talking about PostgreSQL… :)

    By: Carlos Rodrigues on January 17, 2008
    at 1:58 pm

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